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The following a is a transcript of an interviewof the photographer of a bright triangularobject on March 4, 1988 near the eEaslLake
ErieUFO sighting area. On March 19, 1988, a separate witness from W1 and W2 was interviewed by Richard P. Dell'Aquila (RD) and Dale B
. Wedge (DW) concerning a UFO sighting he had on the night of March 4, 1988 (contemporaneously with the Coast Guard sighting that night at E
astlake, Ohio) a few miles south of the Perry nuclear plant, during which the witness attempted to take a series of photographs of an unknow
n brightly lit triangular object. The witness will be designated herein as "W3". The immediate area of the sighting is a circular clea
ring, which forms the witness's yard in a heavily wooded area of southern Lake County, Ohio. The witness's home is at the western edge of t
he clearing and he observed the unknown object from the center of the clearing. The witness has an above average understanding of astronomy
, describing various stars, constellations, citing information on up-coming meteor showers, and noting that Venus and Jupiter (which were in
apparent close proximity in the sky that night) were observed through the tall trees on the western edge of his property. This is a p
artial transcript of his testimony: DW Please give us a description as to what occurred on the night in question. W3 O
kay, my friend and I were at my house and he had never seen any stars or moon or anything through the telescope, so we took it out and we sa
w a neat looking planet with the telescope and we decided we were going to take a picture of it. I went in and got my camera and when we we
re getting [the telescope] focused, I looked up and saw this bright red, reddish-orange light in the Southeast. I grabbed my friend's arm a
nd pointed it out to him. He looked and we were both just stunned. We didn't know what to do. Finally, I came to my senses and took two p
ictures of it and got a glance of it through the telescope, but no better than the picture is. I was going to take another picture, when it
sped up too fast for me to take the picture. It was going slow, and then all of a sudden, it just sped up and I couldn't get a focus on it
to get a picture. Then it disappered behind trees. The dog ran up to me and started grabbing my arm and pull me in the house, like it wan
ted me to hide or something or to get away. It started acting real weird-running around and jumping around and trying to get my friend insi
de. It just kept pulling us, like it wanted us to go inside away from it.DW About what time was this in the evening?W3 About 10:30.
RD Do you remember the night, what night it was?W3 March 4th.DW Did this object, or whatever, make any sound? What alerted you
to the fact it was there?W3 Well, I just lifted my head and it was so bright that it caught my attention out of my peripheral vision.DW
How long did it last? How long did the entire sighting last?W3 About two minutes.DW What was it doing? Can you give us a descr
iption?W3 When I first saw it, it was going real slow...DW From which direction to which direction?W3 East to West. It started
in the East and it was going slow and then it sped up and disappeared behind the trees...[when it sped up it went] faster than a jet. When
it first started it was slower than a jet, then it went faster than a jet. It sped up and I couldn't even get a picture of it because it wa
s going too fast.DW It went down behind some trees?W3 It was just going in a straight line and there were trees in the way so I coul
dn't see it any more. Then we drove into Thompson up onto the big hill and into a clearing and we couldn't see it anymore.DW Did it mak
e any noise?W3 No, not that we know. We didn't hear anything. (At this point, the witness was asked to make a drawing of the obje
ct)W3 (Drawing) It was in this shape and the back part of it here was glowing it would get real bright and would be orange, but then it
would get dim again and then all you would see would be the rear and it would get real bright again. It was almost like a flashing light wh
enever it went out.RD When the brightness changed, was there any change in the motion of the object? Did it speed up, slow down, move up
or down or flutter like a leaf in the wind, anything like that?W3 No, it just was moving across the sky and kept glowing and geting dim
, glowing and getting dim.RD So, you didn't notice any apparent connection between the alternating frequency of the brightness of it and
the motion of it?W3 No.(The MUFON Investigators' Manual was used at this point and the witness selected certain drawings as representa
tive of the apparent size and shape of the object)W3 It was like a triangle shape, but had little tails, like, coming out of the ends.RD
You mentioned the object had a glow, which you diagrammed here on the left-hand side of it. Could you draw an arrow on the page to sho
w which direction it was moving?W3 It was moving in this direction [away from the observed glow]RD What brand name camera did you us
e?(Information on the camera and film used by the witness was taken, an Argus 20, Kodak 110 color film, no special developing process used)R
D Examining the photograph, is this right side up? Is the point, the apex of the triangle upward or downward?W3 Upward. RD Giv
e us an estimate of how far away it was. I know you mentioned it went behind some trees at one point. Do you know how far those trees were
from you?W3 Those are in my yard. It went to where I couldn't see it anymore somewhere over Thompson. Maybe not even a mile away.(The
interview continued)RD (Referring to a streak of light across the triangular object on the photograph) Did you see this blue streak wit
h the naked eye or was this something that surprised you...W3 It was something that surprised me when I saw the picture. In the picture
you can see part of the little fin I was talking about that it has on it...where it comes down and like curves out.(The witness's drawing w
as labelled in reference to the photograph, biographical information concerning the witness was obtained and the MUFON investigative forms w
ere filled)RD What was the sky like that night?W3 Perfectly clear. Not even a little layer of clouds.RD You mentioned you were
out looking at some planets. What planets did you notice in the sky?W3 Well, Venus and Jupiter were set behind the trees. They were no
where near where we were looking. We were just looking at different stars.RD Which direction were you looking in when you first observe
d the object?W3 East by Southeast.RD Describe its motion again. Other than speeding up and slowing down, did it change direction or
muve up or down or exhibit any kind of fluttering or swaying motion?W3 From the angle that we saw it, we couldn't see anything other th
an it was speeding up and slowing down.RD You mentioned a situation with your dog. Could you fill that in for us?W3 We were by the
telescope. We were both standing there. The dog kept running around and acting real weird before we even saw it. It was running around ac
ting real playful, but a different kind of playful. She never acted like that before. When we did see it, she came over and she started tug
ging on my arm and trying to nudge us into the house...nudging us to get away from there or something. She just acted real weird. She kept
running around like towards the door and...just can't explain everything she did...she just ran around and acted so funny.DW You said y
ou were outside? Did you view it from inside at all or from a car, or...W3 No.DW You stated you saw it through your still camera. D
id you see it through your telescope?W3 A little bit, yes. Only like a glance of it though, because I couldn't keep the telescope on it
. I aimed the telescope ahead of where it was heading and then when it did get there it was in and